Press Release
September 5, 2013

Transcript of Q & A between Sen. Cynthia Villar and Department of Agriculture Sec. Proceso Alcala (Blue Ribbon hearing
on Napoles scam, September 5, 2013)

Villar: ... there was no release, in fairness after 2010. I can conclude that there were releases to the Department of Agriculture in 2007, 2009 but there were no releases after 2010. Is that a right conclusion?

Alcala: Doon po sa NGOs ni Ms. Napoles, wala na po, yung sa Zrec at Nabcor, sa GOCC po, wala na po

Guingona: Hindi na ginamit ni Napoles after 2010?

Alcala: Pero sa Office of the Secretay, may nakita kami na nakalista na connected, yung Kaupdanan para sa Mangunguma, Inc.

Villar: Saan naman ni-release iyon, through what?

Alcala: Sa Osec po, ito po yung nilabas namin sa media two days ago na pina-validate po namin. Ang na-approve po sa kanya is P83.2 million, P44.2 million lang po yung naparelease dahil by tranches po ang aming isinagawang releases, napuntahan po ito at na-validate ng aming internal control. Out of six po, iyong lima ay na-confirm po na na-execute lahat ng budget. Iyong kay Cong. Arnulfo Fuentebella ng Bicol ay idineny po nya at saka idineny po nga kanyang chief of staff kaya... may letter na po kami, sabay kaming nakikipag-usap...

Villar: We just want to have an idea of what happened after 2010. Kasi it's unfair naman. Dapat maliwanag na sa atin what happened sa atin in 2007, 2009, and what happened to 2010-2012. I thought wala na sa DA after 2010 kasi yun ang sabi ng dalawang department head na wala na silang releases. Yun pala, hindi pa. Anon man yung agency na napuntahan?

Alcala: Diretso po sya, kasi noon pong 2010 nga po, noong pagkaupo ko po, sinabi ko po sa lahat ng attached agencies na dapat hindi magpadaan ng PDAF. Noong nag-aayos po kami ng budget for 2012, sinabihan kami sa Congress na as long as it follows the menu, hindi kami pwedeng basta-basta tatanggi. Ang nangyari po, nagbuo kami ng committee na nagpre-accredit ng NGOs, it just happened na may nakalusot sa aming isa..

Villar: After that, wala na?

Alcala: Wala na po, isa lang. Worth P750,000 po yung hinahabol namin na hindi pa na-liquidate.

Villar: P750,000 out of what?

Secretary: P44.9 million .

Villar: Parang irrelevant nay un diba?

Secretary: Hindi po, ma'am. Obligasyon po namin iyon.

Villar: Anyway, iyon lang. Kasi I think we are discussing here DA. At least alam natin na from 2010 on, ito lang pumasok sa DA kasi we are going by department.

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